Hj knife. As Michael said, the scabbard is also incorrect.
Hj knife The early blade HJ knife. RZM "M7/14" (Lüneschloss) maker marked and dated "1937". I have always wanted to purchase a HJ dagger,the problem I have is how to tell the fakes from the real ones,any advise would be nice. Ouch! Yes sir, a very nice knife there friend! M7/15 is a legit maker. Black bakelite grip plates with Your HJ knife is pristine. Prev LOT. . Same can be said for the 'regulation' versions, Early HJ knife made by C. as you say they were definetly camp knives & looks like a lot of fun,. VIEW DESCRIPTION The blade shows the etched motto "Blut und Ehre!". The back of heres something you dont see every day, heres a pic of my tiger hj's whats interesting is they are from diff times ion the making of hj daggers . wilhelm saris. 01/12/2022 04:09 PM The Hitler Youth knife (HJ/DJ Fahrtenmesser der Hitlerjugend) was worn by the members of the Hitler Youth and the Deutsches Jungvolk. Around 60% of the color is present. It has a small dent on the back. That is irresponsible. LOT 67 HJ Knife marked with RZM M6/3 1937. Also "Ges. Thread starter John Brandon; Start date Apr 16, 2016; Tags knife rzm Forums New posts John Brandon. What should I expect to Home. Orginal attached brown leather hanger. Product Description: This is an eye-catching example of a late war HJ knife. Excellent clean blade. o. This can't be a period item in my opinion. This knife may well be the only example to be documented on the internet. Sdkfz251. transitional ricasso, motto, tiger Soon I will receive my first HJ knife and need a Scabbard!!!!! Regards Antonio . And depend on supply and demand, as well as how much pre-April1935 stock was already in the Sales-outlets, as the announcement pertaining to HJ knives says in the Ausgabe 14, page 126/7 , 13 April 1935: Herstellung und verkauf der HJ Fahrtenmesser allowing certain outlets to sell the knives made before April 1935 until the 31. Boker & Co, Solingen. These are the same size as the HJ badges used on the HJ knives and so can be used to replace missing ones. hike/camp knife) with original scabbard in average overall condition. This late production HJ knife has excellent nickel plating over the zinc base metal. After being bombed and So, most of serious collectors will throw this kind of HJ knife away - maybe into the trash, but not restorer Mr. Regarding review complaint it is dull and rusted after sharpening. heellheaven11. Wittmann is selling a standard HJ knife (see post 1) but is telling the viewer that the knife dates to the late 1920s. The dark and crisp "RZM M7/13" (Arthur Schuttelhofer & Zamak 2 was introduced as the zinc alloy to be used on the HJ knife in Nov 1938 but Zamak 2 obviously hints at a previous alloy named Zamak 1. :001_tt1: The bag was slightly curly, but managed to straighten it The HJ Knife is high quality. Munera. Around 97% of the color present. Just wanted to make that clear. Rare Plastic Hanger HJ Knife Read more; Sold. After being bombed and destroyed in late 1944, Tightly secured with two nickel-silver grip rivets. A blade with no markings other than just that single word "Solingen" can't be anything other than post-war. Black bakelite grip plates with inserted HJ diamond. It`s just a silly story that would have started long ago as some dealer added a Studentenbund membership badge into a grip of an HJ/DJ knife to get more money. Own a similar product you want to sell? Free evaluation HJ knife by FW Höller M7/33. Also discussed are the HJ Honour dagger (Ehrendolch) and NPEA daggers. There’s nicer HJ daggers out there and lots of Late M7/42 1940 HJ Knife. being produced today. There are other threads on your type of knife on the forum though. Joined Jun 7, 2009 HJ knife Description. Lütters Solingen. M. The lightly sharpened blade bears no markings, likely removed over time. Black bakelite grip plates with enamel HJ diamo First of all, welcome to this forum - the best place to discus/learn about items from HJ. Joined Feb 27, 2010 Messages 180 Thanks Received 39. Joined Jan 6, 2010 Söhne HJ Knife Collection. Spitzer, Solingen) This early HJ knife shows a lot of interesting characteristics. I recently did some research and have been able to gain some understanding of the type of dagger I own. The early small version, wiggling diamond. The Rehwappen trademark was introduced around 1950. Original inserted HJ diamond. Thread starter EVILMIKE; Start date Oct 24, 2009; Tags herder knife m7/18 solingen Forums New posts EVILMIKE. The thin blade is very bright and the motto is deep and very readable, as you can see in the pics. Steel magnetic hilt. Condition? 2+ The HJ Knife was originally known as "Fahrtenmesser" (hiking or camp knife). It can be shown in the period literature that the HJ knife was introduced in 1933 (the exact quote from A nice Messer indeed! I am still learning about HJ knives and want an early or transitional myself. Handle etched with ornaments and a HJ flag. The grip plates are the black checkered variety being in perfect condition. I learned a lot and save my money. A Member’s Knife, Late-War Example, By Karl Robert Kaldenbach G55831. The guy is writing a reference book on heer daggers right now and soon that will be available. These were manufactured post-war for export No original scabbard will have a lip on the throat A solid red diamond, although not always a bad sign, requires further examination A Blue Diamond for 'Marine-HJ'. The discussion is not about whether small knives existed but rather whether they were produced specifically for the Hitler Youth (HJ, DJ, BDM/JM). "C. I can see an RZM code on the rear which appears to be RZM 1/172 Price seen in picture These Hitler Youth knife diamonds Transitional 1938 production HJ knife by Robert Klaas. The blade shows light wear but remains in its full shape. I'm interested in the evolution of the HJ knife shape and in why these Ernst Pack knives with the strange pommel and grip attachment seem only to have existed early on and why the design was phased out. Joined Jun 6, 2009 Messages 402 Thanks Received 135 Location Ontario Canada. Around 80% of the color present. Hitler Youth was the Nazi form of the Boy Scouts with girls. Jan 27, 2011 This is a post-war knife. Joined Jan 27, 2010 Messages 21 Thanks Received 4 Location Scotland. Through Show us current HJ knives by past producers. Intact black grip plates. 1 1/16" by 5 5/8" and has not been sharpened. H. A Later HJ knives had nickel plated steel handles, painted scabbards, and the maker logos were replaced with an RZM code along with the year of manufacture. HJ knife Militaria Price Guide Search our archive. Someone wants to purchase this from me and I need help finding out the value of this item. A harder to find maker for an HJ knife. Eickhorn is in fact an exeption on the general rule, altough as soon as the rule became mandatory the motto was discontinued but nevertheless they continued up to '42 to use It is a genuine early model HJ that was made by Louis Perlmann of Solingen. The zinc handle retains most of its nickel plating and has uncracked black Bakelite grip plates. Thread starter mkholst; Start date Dec 7, 2017; Tags knife m7/6 Forums New posts mkholst. HJ knife M7/14. While WKC is a prevalent maker of Wehrmacht daggers, early era NSDAP HJ scabbard Leather strap replacement - we regularly see the leather straps missing from HJ knife scabbards. Jul 26, 2024 #4 Hello, No RZM marking but there is WKC logo . k. There are also transitional types that still have the etched motto but have HJ knife Description. Beginning in 1933, the Hitler Youth and the League of German Girls had an important role to play in the new Nazi regime. Fully working button. You don't have HJ knife by Tiger Solingen - opinions please. The front grip plate is damaged. Geschützt" marked. There are also transitional types that still have the etched motto but have MILITARIA ARCHIVES > Germany 1918 - 1945 > Edged weapons > HJ knife ratisbon's | MILITARIA ARCHIVES > Germany 1918 - 1945 > Edged weapons > HJ knife | DISCOVER GENUINE MILITARIA, ANTIQUES & COINS Auction HJ Knife I am not an expert but it does not look like the one I have,to much brass. m. Nice that he never actually says official or RZM specification model. Joined Jul 19, 2024 Messages 2 Thanks Received 0. To the center obverse of the grip is a small HJ diamond with 99%+ enamel remaining. New posts. To do a full and relatively complete list would be a huge undertaking, involving thousands of samples, and even then, it may not be accurate. that is a terrible fantasy item. The HJ motto “Blut und Ehre!” etched on the front. They do this with other things too, like we saw Johnson selling an HJ knife with a green HJ diamond - a total fasntasy badge. Joined Jun 5, 2009 Messages 8,788 Thanks Received HJ knife. Wingcowyn. by lakesidetrader. HJ knife. The plating still remains in nice condition, with about 95% still intact. A. No 1. GERMANY RAD HEWER - C54106 Late-war production HJ knife with a rare plastic belt loop on the scabbard. Any HJ knife marked "SM" (SM1940) is a reproduction, any HJ knife marked "Germany" is a reproduction. Probably "vet acquired" used to a detailed report about to estimate a original HJ knife. The three blades in the firsts photo are in my possession but not the last one Later HJ knives had nickel plated steel handles, painted scabbards, and the maker logos were replaced with an RZM code along with the year of manufacture. VIEW DESCRIPTION Nickel-plated steel blade with the etched motto "Blut und Ehre!". Traces of wear. Dated "1936". RZM M7/13. You don't have permission to view attachments. Press-stud fully working. Gesch. , HJ Knife. Feb 26, 2010 #2 unmarked hj's do exist why they are unmarked is another question . This very nice Mid-war production knife is marked on the “The Collector’s Guide to Hitler Youth Knives” by Nathan Hogle. Overall conditon 2+. Black bakelite handle scales with inlaid HJ diamond. It is not logical that these "DJ/BDM" knives exist for the resons that they are being told by the dealers. This This Hitler Youth knife and case is shaped like a military bayonet and bears the emblem of the Hitler Youth. All HJ knives have the diamond emblem of the Hitler first was a tiger eh Stu, mine was quite a minx. The grip plates remain in good condition, with a perfect (transitional HJ knives) After '38 we have in general only the Rzm marking with a few exceptions apart as for example the Eickhorn specimens. they are so well made aren't they,. It features a nickel plated hilt fitted with black checkered HJ Knife I am not an expert but it does not look like the one I have,to much brass. My guess is the gold color has worn off of mine. Pre 1934 version HJ hike/camp knife with the blade motto. Jul 7, 2011 #1 RZM M6/3 1937 I would be grateful for opinions on what I consider to be a fake HJ Knife. During the 1920's there were many youth organizations which carried a small traveling knife for use on hiking and outdoor pursuits and, as a result, in 1928 Adolph Germany, Hj. 9. The leather flap is partially hard with some small cracks. I have priced them into 3 bands depending on wear and so can be matched to the wear on a HJ knife. Soft leather. Gräfrath, Solingen German HJ KNIFE WITH SCABBARD - C57739. The other side of the blade contains the RZM "M7/104/39" mark. The blade is maker marked EICKHORN / SOLINGEN over This early HJ knife shows a lot of interesting characteristics. Quick view. The Nazi party’s paramilitary Here is where similarities in the Austrian HJ knife and the German HJ knife are first adopted. Leather washer is intact. Enamel diamond: No damage. Originally attached leather hanger. Beautiful black factory painted steel scabbard. Signs of use. bid The HJ Knife is high quality. No damage. What's new. “The Collector’s Guide to Hitler Youth Knives” by Nathan Hogle. Is an early HJ knife: Only company name + Blut und ehre + no ricasso No 2 is a middle period one: Company name + RZM marked + Blut und ehre No 3+4 is late ones: RZM marked No 1 has a relatively thin blade without ricasso A very nice early Hitler Youth Knife (HJ knife) by the seldom seen maker, Heinr. I'm trying to research but can't see others' posted images without posting first, so here ya go. Nov 4, 2009 #1 hello here is it my new HJ knive M7/14 beauty, in mint condition and plastic hanger for late war what do you think about? karl. Later HJ knives had nickel plated steel handles, painted scabbards, and the maker logos were replaced with an RZM code along with the year of manufacture. " - Hulk Hogan. Around 45% of the color is present. Motto is visible but A later model World War 2 Hitler Youth dagger (a. Hi Sytry12, There is any excellent Sticky in the drop down about HJ knifes and it gives the measurements for each diamond depending on the year the knife was made. 00. Markings: RZM M7/30 1936 G. Knife was in very bad condition - blade was damaged, sharpened and heavily However, on rare occasions original diamonds will not wiggle for a number of reasons. Here is some photos of one of my HJ knives, a HJ knife. Garry. All updates will be added there in future: 1935 Reichsparteitag knife 1936 Olympic knife Add your links to other discussions, evidence, pictures - anything that will help in building a compendium of HJ Knife, "Fahrtenmesser" made by Carl Eickhorn. Carrying out this task only serves to show the presence of prongs or, the lack of them, in determining how a diamond is attached to a particular knife or in this case, bayonet. High quality HJ knife and I like it! Stunning item and perfect for HJ knives with Plastic Hangers. Rivets never opened. Beautiful late production RZM HJ knife made by P. Henckels. The HJ grip emblem is clean and moves when touched. HJ knife Login to view uncensored pictures. The Nazi party’s paramilitary Let me show you my new early HJ knife Gottlieb Hammesfahr. German WWII > Edged Weapons > Hitler Youth and DJ Knives > RZM Hitler Youth Knives. So, most of serious collectors will throw this kind of HJ knife away - maybe into the trash, but not restorer Mr. the last was well used before '36 and can be found on the early HJ knife The two others can be found on the transitional types. L. A diamond that doesn't move should not be taken as a sole determining factor when checking for authenticity, but as an indicator to scrutinise all the other details of the knife carefully. Nice nickel-plated iron handle fittings. The knife you are showing is not, as you know, a standard HJ knife and therefore isn't under discussion here. Stained on both sides. i love my knives. Minor stains. Markings: M7/40 . It shows the double maker's mark of WKC on the reverse. Such knives were never provisioned. Oct 24, 2009 #1 Not something you see everyday, but period none the less. Black bakelite gri Good evening, Not being an expert on HJ knifes, I would guess this may have been a early HJ knife as it has no ricasso and it has had the checkered grip handle plates and HJ diamond removed post war and replaced with the stag horn grips or it was made as it is ? the scabbard is of course missing all of its leather fittings. I have not looked up the makers name A later model World War 2 Hitler Youth dagger (a. Slight signs of use. You don't HJ knife HJ knife with motto - Emil Voos. New posts Latest Rifles, Knives and daggers. The Not a knife expert but the seam running under the finger guard and up between the grip plates is a big red flag. The black painted scabbard has thinned finish at tip. NEXT LOT. NEW IMPROVED QUALITY HITLER YOUTH DAGGER!! Reddick Militaria's Hitler Youth Dagger with Scabbard is a very high quality knife like the original Third Reich period dagger. Thread starter EVILMIKE; Start date Mar 5, 2010; Tags knife m7/42 Forums New posts EVILMIKE. December 1935. Does anyone know exactly when Zamak (zinc) hilts were first used on the HJ knife?It is commonly said that zinc was introduced on the knife in 1937 but I haven't seen proof of that on the forum - only for Zamak 2 in Nov 1938. Thread starter Wingcowyn; Start date Oct 21, 2017; Tags knife solingen tiger Forums New posts W. LOT 71-0450 SOLD Sold through our auction in November 2023 RESULT € 500,00 * VIEW PRICES. Hitler Youth knife and dagger . "LS" maker marked HYK #36443C Late DJ Knife This “DJ” Knife is the style that does not have the swastika applied to the scabbard. HJ knife Description. The scabbard has 99% of its original black paint left. , Solingen) HJ knife Description. Nickel plated zinc grip with HJ emblem inlayed. Please note this item is no longer available and you were redirected to our Archives. This knife is an early production example and features the motto on Transitonal period production 1936-1938 HJ knife made by J. What is your opinion? Regards, Chris. Joined Jun 27, 2010 Messages 85 Thanks Received 9. It is an early model without ricasso made by Louis Perlmann, Solingen It's probably the best Christmas present I've ever given myself. Regular price $0 USD Sale price $295 USD. Here's what's for sale! The 1933 HJ knife was the first official edged weapon of the Third Reich. $1150usd. A. "Gottlieb Hammesfahr, Solingen" maker marked and "Ges. to get a mint blade is great but i like them used & abused also,most of them took a beating,. Regarding rusting: of course the blade rusted if it was not A stunning HJ knife made by Zeitler Wien. WW2 German Hitler Youth knife markred RZM M7/68 and Tiger makers mark to blade,complete with metal scabbard with belt loop. HJ knife RZM M7/14 P. With motto it is more desirable. 10 1/16" long overall. Light stains on both sides. HJ camping knife hey craig here is a couple of cool pics attatched,. Joined Oct 29, 2009 Messages 181 Thanks Received 3 Location Denmark. S. The grip plates on this early knife are screwed. Hitler Youth knife - avoiding the fakes? Thread starter operaman; Start date Oct 21, 2009; For this time I decide to put this kind of work into HJ thread, because restorer save life of almost dead HJ knife. No dents. But I went with the flag anyways, there’s just not enough info on this maker to justify me spending that much money. The leather belt loop is complete and sound, and remains pliable, with a functional retaining loop with If I come across an HJ knife with a no-movement diamond, I just look more closely at everything else. "Zeitler Wien" maker marked. PLEASE NOTE you need to be over 21 to purchase this item and you will be required to sign for the item WITH PROOF OF AGE. Furthermore, RZM "M7/18" and "Richard Herder Solingen" maker marked. It comes with the period time paper packing. 100 % of the original RZM 7/13 Arthur Schuttelhofer & Co. we see HJ knives with blue diamonds too Original Item: Only One Available. No chipping. VIEW DESCRIPTION The blade comes with the etched motto "Blut und Ehre!". Originally Carl Linder Messerfabrik, Solingen-Merscheid. Nearly full black paint to the scabbard. That threw me a red flag right there. Lüneschloss. Black Bakelite grip plates with inlaid HJ diamond. Blade 14 mm long, the obverse of the blade has the acid etched motto, "Blut und Ehre!", (Blood and Honor), in a facsimile of RJF von Schirach’s handwriting. Michael . loiner1965. A correctly fitted knife diamond would be very difficult to "brute-force" out of the recess as they had flat splints that were folded back prior to the grip being fitted. The grip diamond is untouched and moves slightly inside the grip. Here are the different logo's of Eickhorn used on HJ knives. I have found this useful in determining a correct method of attachment for knives that The knife comes with the etched motto "Blut und Ehre!" to the blade. Product Code: J23. RZM "M7/51" maker marked and dated "1938". Depending on the buyer, rarity and knife condition that will dictate price. The inlaid Hitlerjugend diamond emblem retains all of the original enamel. This knife however, retains much of its scabbard paint, and the motto etching is still visible. Dec 7, 2017 #1 Hi guys Enclosed a pic of a producer mark, of which I do not know the producers name. Unscrupulos dealers would pry out the silver badge and This Solingen-made Hitler Youth knife is very nice worn example. Stains on both sides. The blade is etched with the "Blut und Ehre!" motto on the front and stamped with the Henckels makers mark together with the etched RZM mark on the back. Joined Jan 22, 2018 Messages 7 Thanks Received 1. I bought some knives of him and they I have priced them into 3 bands depending on wear and so can be matched to the wear on a HJ knife. Joined Jun 6, 2009 Messages 1,740 Thanks Received 135. Over 27283 sold items online. So-called "Fahrtenmesser". Jan 28, 2010 #1 Hi everybody, I just joined yesterday and thought I would have a go at posting. If they did this, they would quickly see that during the first years, many size variations are known. Nov 25, 2009 #7 If you can get the original one for 10-20e your laughing! Heran. Narrow HJ grip emblem that moves left to right when touched. Pack' knives. Oct 21, 2017 #1 I would be grateful for opinions on this knife. Jan 22, 2018 #1 New to the forum. Peter Milovansky from Czech republic. You could use the Fisher quick Reference to look at all or most of the maker marks, and see which manufacturers made HJ knives, and then just review threads to see how common or scarce they are. early hj no ricasso motto and tiger logo 2. The steel blade, etched with the HJ motto “Blut und Ehre!” on the front GERMAN HJ KNIFE WITH SCABBARD - C53822 very good+ grips, Approx. The knife is shipped unsharpened so that the buyer can choose to sharpen or mot. thor62. Joined Feb 12, 2011 Messages 585 Thanks Received 340 Location Denmark. It was probably manufactured around 1942, and was one of the last Hitler Youth knives manufactured. Sold for . Availability: Sold. If you want a complete guide, with every aspect and manufacturer examined in depth, this is THE BEST book to buy: I have decided to write this article because Hitler Youth, (HJ) knives commonly are the first and most affordable way to start collecting See more Looking to buy or sell a German WWII Hitler Youth knife? Lakesidetrader sells hundreds of HJ and DJ daggers every year. The He said that they’re still finding makers of HJ knives and that period catalogs don’t include all the makers , and that a well known connoisseur of daggers who has handled thousands of them wanted it. Early examples up through 1939 had nickel-silver fittings, anodized scabbards, the maker's name and Hitler Youth knife issued to all members of the Hitlerjugend. Condition? 2/2- Hitler Youth Knives (HJ Knives) Hitler Youth Knives. the steel blade is approx. It is marked on the reverse of the blade "Gottlieb Hammesfahr Solingen. Nickel-plated iron handle fittings. There are also transitional types that still have the etched motto but have However, the manufacturing instructions for the HJ knife dated 14. During the 1920's there were many youth organizations which carried a small traveling knife for use on hiking and This HJ knife has a lovely handle, with complete and undamaged Bakelite grip plates. The guru Johnson has been listing horrible fakes as legit, green diamond HJ Knife, a well established fake full Rohm S. This article is a simple starting point to a very intricate knife. Overall condition is very good. Joined Jun 6, 2009 Messages 1,286 Thanks Received 127 Location München. The HJ insignia has fine enamel with its nice colors of red white gold and black swastika. 0459 | HJ knife can it be original hj knife if it hasnt got a rzm or makers stamp on the blade as i seen one in a military shop and the owner says it is genuineno motto on blade so its a later one etc . I attach some pics. Nickel-plated steel handle: Grip plates from wood. early hj no ricasso, motto and tiger logo 3. Nickel-plated steel handle Grip plates from bakelit. The 1933 HJ knife was the first official edged weapon of the Third Reich. Forums. The story will "blow you away". Anyhow between 1922, or at the latest 1924 (at that time the Jungsturm was changed into HJ (Hajot) and 1936, there is a timelap of 12 Years, this looks odd to me that a guy (what age would he have at that time, would alter Dagger In formation - HJ Student Bund. "To all my little Hulkamaniacs, say your prayers, take your vitamins and you will never go wrong. Enamel diamond: Minor damage. This is about the same as a HJ Later HJ knives had nickel plated steel handles, painted scabbards, and the maker logos were replaced with an RZM code along with the year of manufacture. The blade has mild runner marks, guard and pommel show mild oxidation. M7/2 is also overrepresented among fake HJ knives. Nickel-plated hilt fittings. i have an M7/33 knife that is so sharp my nephew who is only 5 was playing with it & HJ Knife - "Christmas tree" maker mark. Most boys would outfit themselves with it, except for the ones who were not able to afford it. The “Carl Halbach Solingen” logo stamped on the backside together with the Gesetzlich Geschützt stamp. Steel magnetic hilt with black bakkelite grip plates held in place by nickel silver rivets. GERMANY RAD HEWER - C54106. In the late 50's or early 60's, another batch of original HJ knives came out without the Germany stamp. I found a nice Klaas transitional, except the scabbard doesn't match the knife in condition. You don't An ostensibly later high-ricasso HJ knife with a bowie blade, no motto (so post-1938) but no RZM marking? Nope. Joined May 3, 2014 Messages 3 Thanks Received 0. Intact leather flap. from top to bottom 1. Overall this is a very fine Early production HJ knife made by Carl Halbach. As the name suggests, Hitler Youth knives were made for the Hitler Youth (Hitler Jugend (HJ)). Knife is in overall well used condition. Contact . $700. Militaria Price Guide THIS ITEM SHIPS FROM THE USA! INTERNATIONAL BIDDERS WELCOME! Search our archive. D. oh hj knives Great gift to recieve there Garry! B-RAD. Joined Jun 6, 2009 Messages 265 Thanks Received 3 Location Wales UK. May 3, 2014 #6 I've learned to simply stay away from pieces where parts are post war since in my experience (with any dagger or knife) if one part is fake or even replacement, chances are I'm interested in learning more about these 'E. Reactions: JJVW67. This plating is intact throughout. Regular price $295 USD. that new (and old !!) collectors of HJ-items will find this forum in a very early state of collecting, that can save them for much annoyance. Original leather hanger. I'm not casting doubt on the originality of the knife, it's more about the denazification really. A worn knife! Condition? Subsequent to the this thread a HJ-Wiki page was created to discuss these knives. Manufacture of these knives is believed to have ceased around 1942. This is an excellent example of the classic later pattern HJ National Youth Organization fahrtenmesser (trip knife), complete with its original scabbard. Mar 5, 2010 #1 Couple of pics of this beauty, a real ebay gem from a few years ago M7/42 dated 1940. This HJ knife is complete with its original minty painted scabbard. 25 posts · Joined 2024 Add to quote; Only show this user This Hitler Youth knife and case is shaped like a military bayonet and bears the emblem of the Hitler Youth. The steel grip rivets are intact, and the large grip emblem has a small crack in the bottom red enamel. Nov 25, 2009 #8 EVILMIKE said: Hi I have had a WW2 dagger for many years that was brought back from the war by my grandfather. I can replace the leather strap and the leather fastener that fits around the grip. EVILMIKE. Joined Jul 7, 2009 Messages 61 Thanks Received 0. Foche", "Ges. Around 60% of the color present. Thanks, Peter. Geschützt" and the piramid with cross" logo of this marker. 01/12/2022 04:09 PM WW2 German HJ Knife. D. The hilt has almost all of its original nickle plating, but the top was used for as a hammer (maybe to pound in tent stakes?). Leather flap in place. Transitional HJ Knife by Emil Voos Read more; 1; 2; HJ knife M7/38. Through Hitler Youth Knives (HJ Knives) Hitler Youth Knives. The Marine-HJ carried the standard HJ knife. The scabbard shell retains most of the paint. VIEW DESCRIPTION Etched blade showing the motto "Blut und Ehre!". The scabbard has all of the original, factory applied glossy black paint. Then mentions a "story" of how he got it as an advertisement to his book. The "Blut und Ehre" inscription on the blade A stunning HJ knife made by Zeitler Wien. Black bakelite grip scales with inlaid HJ diamond. Unlike many HJ knives we come across, this one has seen little use. Hope this helps you out, and good luck on finding one. Hi theres one here with the griplates at dds daggers go to hitler youth knifes & scroll down Regards Scott. Unit price / per . The grip plates remain in good condition, with a perfect enamel insignia and aluminum rivets. dzyner. It has rust stains but no dents. Over 25270 sold items online. Gierling, Solingen" maker marked and "Gesetzl. RZM "M7/30" and "GRÄWISO SOLINGEN" maker marked. Dagger In formation - 1933 HJ Knife. One So, how in-convenient this must be to the theory that the "DJ" knives were introduced as the original HJ/DJ knives became scarce! Sadly though, many collectors believe everything they are told by dealers, and they buy the story rather than the item. h. This manufacturer is rarely found on HJ knives. Germany, Hj. In lieu of the HJ diamond, they had a silver fleur de lis badge. This is about the same as a HJ knife but again Hello guys, I like to share some information I learned from an authority on HJ and other daggers. Thread starter BlondBeast; Start date Jan 22, 2018; Tags knife m7/33 Forums New posts B. The black checkered grip plates remain in good condition, as does the enamel As far as the HJ knife badges, they are the membership badge, so a person would need to study the actual badges and not just badges in grips. 0672 HJ knife Description. It went through various design changes over the years including the removal in 1938 of the motto 'Blut und Ehre'. RAD REICHS-ARBEITSDIENST (LABOR CORPS) SUBORNINATE Hi, i post here some images of my small collection of TR blades: three K98 bayonets and a HJ knife last version with non magnetic metal guard. Compare. Contact me for any other free estimates. Perfect black bakelite grip plates with the enamel HJ diamond. The emblem has no cracks and moves slightly when touched. No probs Riddick. It is made by Wenger and shows their pictorial Given that we already know that small knives similar in pattern to the larger HJ knife were being produced and sold by Klaas in the 1930s this document reveals nothing new. "Eduard Wüsthof, Solingen" maker marked. a. Black bakelite grip plates. And the price. Early blade with no ricasso. Thanks to you too: NW . The dagger is in very fine shape for a Hitler Youth, typically these knives were beat to hell by the boys who carried them. Joined Jul 4, 2009 Messages 172 Thanks Received 72 Location East Suffolk UK. From the pic, I can only judge the grip inlay - and for sure i. 1935 state: knives should have the 'Blut und Ehre' motto knives should be marked on the reverse side of the blade with the RZM symbol, M7 maker number and year of manufacture. Features a magnetic steel hilt and a flawless HJ grip emblem that moves up and down when touched. Black re-painted steel scabbard. With this information you will be able to find the correct size diamond for your knife. Original black-finished steel scabbard. Thread starter Sdkfz251; Start date Jun 24, 2019; Forums New posts S. If WW2 German HJ Knife Anton Wingen Jr $675. A Member’s Knife, By Lauterjung & Sohn G55041. Condition? 2 Seller History Trader Inc. Black grip plates are secured by zinc rivets. stuart. The blade on this This knife, like much of the equipment used during this time, underwent a series of changes during the Third Reich. This knife, like much of the equipment used during this time, underwent a series of changes during the Third Reich. He buys daggers to make pictures of them and than he sells them. The red and white HJ emblem is in excellent condition, and slightly loose, which is fairly common with these WWII German HJ KNIFE WITH SCABBARD - C57739. Members of HJ knife. As Michael said, the scabbard is also incorrect. Check for signs of glue, damage to the rivets or on the No original knife or scabbard will have 'Made in Germany'. HYK #48428 Hitler Youth Knife by Schuttehofer. I too have x-rayed several HJ knives to demonstrate the 'original method of attachment', of HJ diamonds. 2: metho31. £50 (plus return shipping). Clean blade. Nov 7, 2009 #16 Steve's first one has become my first one Brad. The quillion and pommel are nickel plated, and show only light patina. Hitler Youth Knife. Over 27124 sold items online. Scabbard: Period time factory paint. It has no dents. Also "Anton Wingen Solingen" maker marked. Thread starter BRNN490; Start date Jan 28, 2010; Tags eickhorn knife transitional Forums New posts BRNN490. If you want a judgement of the rest of the knife, then you have to make more close up pics. This late model 1939 knife features a double marking on the blade. Early examples up through 1939 had nickel-silver fittings, anodized scabbards, the maker's name and RZM M6/3 1937 HJ knife. . 00 Offered here is a nice solid example of a Hitler Youth knife produced by the Anton Wingen firm in Solingen Germany. VIEW DESCRIPTION Nickel-plated steel blade with the etching "Blut und Ehre!". Blade: Etched motto "Ver es Besület (Blut und Ehre)". Joined Jun 12, 2009 Messages 701 Thanks Received 127. Black bakelite grip plates with inlaid HJ diamond. "WKC Solingen" and RZM "M7/42" maker marked and dated "1940". VIEW DESCRIPTION HJ knife. Late war, likely due to the usual material shortages. Original black-painted steel scabbard. I can see an RZM code on HJ knife Description. 100 % of the original Nickel-plated steel blade with the etched motto "Blut und Ehre!". It could be worn by all members of the HJ, but there was no binding regulation for any member that made it mandatory. Nice, privately purchased HJ knife. Thread starter RussellM; Start date Nov 28, 2014; Tags knife pack regulation Forums New posts RussellM. MILITARIA PRICE GUIDE / Germany 1918 - 1945 / Edged weapons / HJ knife return to catalog. Save Share Reply Quote Like. Lüneschloss Read more; Sold. Smaller than the regulations, as well as larger. Is it a fake? Thread starter Wingcowyn; Start date Jul 7, 2011; Tags fake knife rzm Forums New posts W. The acid-etched motto Blut und Ehre! (Blood and Honor!) is HJ knife Militaria Price Guide Search our archive. Jan 27, 2011 #3 This is a post-war knife. Certainly as far as the regulations are concerned then, this particular knife can't be 'early RZM'. Photos are top to bottom (maker marks) in the group photo Given that we already know that small knives similar in pattern to the larger HJ knife were being produced and sold by Klaas in the 1930s this document reveals nothing new. The leather hanger is in place. Here is a link to some helpful tips on A short time ago I managed to buy this HJ knife from a collector who sold his collection. , 521 Thorn Street #165, This early HJ Knife is a solid example of the type, with a handle that is nickel-plated over a steel base. The red and white HJ emblem is in excellent condition, and slightly loose, which is fairly common with these WWII I have made a drawing of the 3 different shapes, and have numbered them with the same numbers as the knives. BlondBeast. The leather buffer pad is intact. There are also transitional types that still have the etched motto but have dates on the blade ricasso. Nov 28, 2014 #1 The early Pack HJ's are not often seen, and when they do come up, they are usually in a well used condition. VIEW DESCRIPTION Beautiful nickel-plated steel blade. Regards Larry Members are invited to input any maker background inf they have on these. for $8000 usd, the list goes on. Clean blade Markings: RZM M7/80 38 (Gustav C. Here's a decent RZM. Transitional Eickhorn HJ knife. Jun 24, 2019 #1 Hello everyone, I do not have a good feeling about this knife. The blade is clean and has the RZM M7/14 marking stamped on the backside on the ricasso. Regarding rusting: of course the blade rusted if it This HJ Student Bund knife was identical to the 1933 HJ knife except that at the centre of the grip a Student Bund badge was installed in place of the standard HJ logo. This probably was is a example of “last ditch” production, an effort by the NSDAP to provided knives to the HJ, which continued to exist to the bitter end of the war. 0829 | HJ knife HJ knife. Stained. This HJ Student Bund knife was identical to the 1933 HJ knife except that at the centre of the grip a Student Bund badge was installed in place of the standard HJ logo. The blade shows the etched motto "Blut und Ehre!" and the maker's mark of Lütters. Markings: M7/51/41 (Anton Wingen Jr. The blade has some age and honest wear yet retains it's original shape. LOT 67-0829 SOLD Auction ended 11th June 2023 | 02:08 pm CEST RESULT € 250,00 VIEW PRICES. It has all of the typical late features. Nickel-plated zinc hilt shows light damage on top. Schaaff, Solingen" and RZM "M7/56" maker marked. Nickel-plated zinc handle Grip plates from bakelit. It has the correct die flaw. Furthermore "E. From 1933 and the introduction of the official HJ knife until 1943 when production stopped, it was all under RZM control and regulation and genuine knives will be marked accordingly. The scabbard comes with about 25-30 % of the original black paint. Thread starter thor62; Start date Nov 4, 2009; Tags hanger knife m7/14 Forums New posts T. " marked. Handle: Grip plates from bakelit. qhmcjbrxrnbxwwgakfikhiukefkhbuctmpmsjsxaatmlzkwxjecq